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	<title>Comments on: Reclaim Disk Space After Creative Suite 4 Updates &#8211; Remove AdobePatchFiles</title>
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		<title>By: AdamJury</title>
		<link>http://dirtywords.tv/2009/reclaim-disk-space-after-creative-suite-4-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-1089</link>
		<dc:creator>AdamJury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elliot — Your info is, as far as I know, correct. I just started experimenting with that last week. I&#039;ve deleted that folder on my laptop install of CS5, and kept it on my desktop.

Before even trying this, I&#039;ve had problems with the CS5 updater for months, on both computers — Adobe Device Central and Illustrator updates both fail with these messages:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

  Adobe Device Central CS5.0.1
  Installation failed
 
  Adobe Illustrator CS5 15.0.1 Update
  Installation failed

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Other updates install just fine.

The installer and updater &lt;strong&gt;is&lt;/strong&gt; much nicer in CS5, though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elliot — Your info is, as far as I know, correct. I just started experimenting with that last week. I&#8217;ve deleted that folder on my laptop install of CS5, and kept it on my desktop.</p>
<p>Before even trying this, I&#8217;ve had problems with the CS5 updater for months, on both computers — Adobe Device Central and Illustrator updates both fail with these messages:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>  Adobe Device Central CS5.0.1<br />
  Installation failed</p>
<p>  Adobe Illustrator CS5 15.0.1 Update<br />
  Installation failed</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Other updates install just fine.</p>
<p>The installer and updater <strong>is</strong> much nicer in CS5, though!</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://dirtywords.tv/2009/reclaim-disk-space-after-creative-suite-4-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-1088</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great find. As far as I can tell it still works with CS5.

One thing that is different with on my computer, however, is that right now there is a folder named &quot;Adobe&quot; along side my CS5 folders (I installed Ps and Ai into my Applications folder). Inside of &quot;Adobe&quot; sits &quot;Adobe Help.app&quot; and a folder called &quot;AdobePatchFiles&quot;. 

Within &quot;AdobePatchFiles&quot; are several folders ranging from a couple Mb to one that is &gt;100Mb. I am assuming that this is where the actual patches are stored, the largest being the first update, and is not a temporary folder like the one found here.


Has anyone else seen this with CS5 and can confirm my suspicions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great find. As far as I can tell it still works with CS5.</p>
<p>One thing that is different with on my computer, however, is that right now there is a folder named &#8220;Adobe&#8221; along side my CS5 folders (I installed Ps and Ai into my Applications folder). Inside of &#8220;Adobe&#8221; sits &#8220;Adobe Help.app&#8221; and a folder called &#8220;AdobePatchFiles&#8221;. </p>
<p>Within &#8220;AdobePatchFiles&#8221; are several folders ranging from a couple Mb to one that is &gt;100Mb. I am assuming that this is where the actual patches are stored, the largest being the first update, and is not a temporary folder like the one found here.</p>
<p>Has anyone else seen this with CS5 and can confirm my suspicions?</p>
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		<title>By: AdamJury</title>
		<link>http://dirtywords.tv/2009/reclaim-disk-space-after-creative-suite-4-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-1072</link>
		<dc:creator>AdamJury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 19:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Phil,

My experience with CS4 has included deleting the PatchFiles directory and then applying more patches on top of it without incident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Phil,</p>
<p>My experience with CS4 has included deleting the PatchFiles directory and then applying more patches on top of it without incident.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://dirtywords.tv/2009/reclaim-disk-space-after-creative-suite-4-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-1071</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adobe seems to think doing this is a no-no...
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/676056?tstart=-1

I better not risk it though I have almost 3 gigs in nonsense on my drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adobe seems to think doing this is a no-no&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://forums.adobe.com/thread/676056?tstart=-1" rel="nofollow">http://forums.adobe.com/thread/676056?tstart=-1</a></p>
<p>I better not risk it though I have almost 3 gigs in nonsense on my drive.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; This week&#8217;s links petersteinberger.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; This week&#8217;s links petersteinberger.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 18:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Delete Adobe Creative Suite CS4 Patch Files Grrr. space is limited on a SSD. There&#8217;s just no reason for Adobe to keep them on my disk! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Delete Adobe Creative Suite CS4 Patch Files Grrr. space is limited on a SSD. There&#8217;s just no reason for Adobe to keep them on my disk! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Rushton</title>
		<link>http://dirtywords.tv/2009/reclaim-disk-space-after-creative-suite-4-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-1037</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Rushton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this. Just saved me 2,9GB!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this. Just saved me 2,9GB!</p>
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		<title>By: AdamJury</title>
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		<dc:creator>AdamJury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 06:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aylwin, do you have access to or links to documentation that says any unique/necessary data is included in that directory? Anecdotally, nobody has made any comments here about future upgrades not working, and I haven&#039;t had any such problems on the two machines I&#039;ve done this on. 

Even if that directory was deleted, the exact version of every Creative Suite app is included in the info.plist file that is inside each application package -- that&#039;s a far more logical place for the updater to look to find what version the current install is.

After all, the mere presence of the .AdobePatchFiles directory doesn&#039;t perfectly indicate if the patch was installed, I don&#039;t believe ... a crash during the install would leave the entire directory there, with only some files applied.

That all said, if you ran into some future problems and told Adobe tech support that you&#039;d deleted said files, I&#039;m sure that they would say &quot;We don&#039;t know if that may have caused your problem, and we don&#039;t advocate doing that, so you&#039;re out of luck.&quot;

(Adobe have popped into Dirty Words before to tell me when I was full of shit -- politely and professionally -- and they&#039;ve yet to do so for this post ...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aylwin, do you have access to or links to documentation that says any unique/necessary data is included in that directory? Anecdotally, nobody has made any comments here about future upgrades not working, and I haven&#8217;t had any such problems on the two machines I&#8217;ve done this on. </p>
<p>Even if that directory was deleted, the exact version of every Creative Suite app is included in the info.plist file that is inside each application package &#8212; that&#8217;s a far more logical place for the updater to look to find what version the current install is.</p>
<p>After all, the mere presence of the .AdobePatchFiles directory doesn&#8217;t perfectly indicate if the patch was installed, I don&#8217;t believe &#8230; a crash during the install would leave the entire directory there, with only some files applied.</p>
<p>That all said, if you ran into some future problems and told Adobe tech support that you&#8217;d deleted said files, I&#8217;m sure that they would say &#8220;We don&#8217;t know if that may have caused your problem, and we don&#8217;t advocate doing that, so you&#8217;re out of luck.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Adobe have popped into Dirty Words before to tell me when I was full of shit &#8212; politely and professionally &#8212; and they&#8217;ve yet to do so for this post &#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Aylwin Lo</title>
		<link>http://dirtywords.tv/2009/reclaim-disk-space-after-creative-suite-4-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-1025</link>
		<dc:creator>Aylwin Lo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 04:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just done the same and saved 1.11 GB. 

However, I think it&#039;s worth a warning that one should have their original CS4 disks, and probably a backup before attempting anything like this: patch files, as one might expect, keep track of the differences between different versions of your CS apps. Deleting these files could cause future CS app updates to fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just done the same and saved 1.11 GB. </p>
<p>However, I think it&#8217;s worth a warning that one should have their original CS4 disks, and probably a backup before attempting anything like this: patch files, as one might expect, keep track of the differences between different versions of your CS apps. Deleting these files could cause future CS app updates to fail.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://dirtywords.tv/2009/reclaim-disk-space-after-creative-suite-4-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-1024</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2.8 GB! Asif I didn&#039;t hate Adobe&#039;s installer technology enough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2.8 GB! Asif I didn&#8217;t hate Adobe&#8217;s installer technology enough!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Sheldon</title>
		<link>http://dirtywords.tv/2009/reclaim-disk-space-after-creative-suite-4-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-991</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Sheldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - thanks for this.  I&#039;ve just noticed this folder, a whopping 2.3gb!!!  Wanted to know it&#039;s safe to delete, and your post confirmed it!  Thanks very much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; thanks for this.  I&#8217;ve just noticed this folder, a whopping 2.3gb!!!  Wanted to know it&#8217;s safe to delete, and your post confirmed it!  Thanks very much!</p>
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